Viaduct closure: Monday pm West Seattle-bound updates

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We’re going to go ahead and start the afternoon/evening commute coverage, since there’s new news:

RACHEL MARIE BACK ON THE WEST SEATTLE WATER TAXI RUN: WSB’er SK sent word of this – and moments later, we also got word from Michelle Allison in KC Councilmember Joe McDermott’s office: “Apparently the problem was a ‘faulty turbo charger on the starboard engine” which has since been repaired, tested and given the go ahead.” So if you’re coming home on the Water Taxi – here’s the special schedule for this week – you’ll be on Rachel Marie.

TREE BLOCKING FAIRMOUNT: Some park-and-ride Water Taxi commuters might be affected if this isn’t cleared soon – a big tree is blocking Fairmount just north of the bridge:

(Later note – We haven’t heard yet if it’s been cleared – let us know if you’ve gone through there.)

3:56 PM UPDATE: Multiple reports of bus slowness, particularly on 1st Avenue South. And lots of reports of, just like other days, getting stuck waiting for trains. We’re adding cameras relevant to the commute home – 1st and 4th, for example.

4:30 PM UPDATE: The Royal Brougham onramp to NORTHBOUND 99 did reopen as promised, by the way, in case you need to head north. (added) A commuter headed home from Beacon Hill says the backup’s not too bad to get to the bridge from there, but “many lights” to wait through.

4:59 PM UPDATE: Just talked to County Councilmember Joe McDermott about the Water Taxi – as he walked up to the line at Pier 50 to head home to West Seattle. (He shared the photo just added above – he says he’s #74 in line for the 5:15 pm run.) That reminds us, this morning’s ridership is now posted on the WT website – see it here.

5:15 PM: Via Twitter, @matinay reports, “I’m on a 55, 1st ave S & Lander. All SB buses on 1st are being rerouted further south to E Marginal to avoid a long train.”

5:31 PM:
We have just driven east on the low bridge to check out the westbound traffic. Counted NINE buses on the low bridge (and a bit east of it) – from west to east, it was 120, a 55, a 21, and a 56, a 116, and another 120, two 54s, and a 21. We were then briefly on the eastbound high bridge – it’s slow going between 99 and 5.

5:43 PM: Another Water Taxi update from Joe McDermott – he estimates about 30 people who were in for the 5:15 pm sailing had to wait for the next one. (Added above, another view of that line, from Josh Sutton.) Meantime, we’ve just taken 4th Avenue South to the 1st Avenue South Bridge. A little backup in the final stretch before the bridge, and we’re now in a short backup on the onramp, but not bad at all.

6:19 PM: Still seeing tweets from people in buses experiencing slow going home. We’ll be asking Metro if they plan to do anything differently tomorrow.

51 Replies to "Viaduct closure: Monday pm West Seattle-bound updates"

  • rhonda October 24, 2011 (3:29 pm)

    On the 56e bus and traffic from lander and on 1st is already backed up. Afternoon comute is going to take much longer than this morning!

  • mrsB October 24, 2011 (3:33 pm)

    The bridge is wide open..

  • clark5080 October 24, 2011 (3:34 pm)

    Man about to leave for work now got to figure out the best rout to south lake union. Probably futile there is no best route

  • Corra October 24, 2011 (3:45 pm)

    The bridge is not the problem, getting there is. First and fourth are both backed up.

  • Knowshowtodrive October 24, 2011 (4:05 pm)

    Part of the problem on 1st Avenue is that the idiots at SDOT allowed it to be blocked off this afternoon for underground electric work. Brilliant planning SDOT!!

    And the bridge is wide open because there’s no way to get to it except from I-5 or Columbia. So reporting on the bridge status for people trying to get home is worthless.

  • Oneanne October 24, 2011 (4:07 pm)

    First 21X is stuck in traffic on First trying to make turn on to Hanford about 10 minutes so far

  • Jtk October 24, 2011 (4:22 pm)

    Getting to work In Fremont was easy. I left at 5:45 am! Getting he was the problem. Over 70 minutes to get from Fremont to west Seattle taking I-5. Ugh. What I love is that people whiz by you knowing they will have to cut in at the last minute. People, you know the exit is there. Wait in line like everyone else. Your life is no more important than everyone already in line. Jeez. I hope the cops get some of these people that don’t wait their turn. Bwaaaahhhhh. :)

  • Larry October 24, 2011 (4:27 pm)

    http://web5.seattle.gov/travelers/ is reporting 11 minutes to NB/SB I-5 from 34th and Admiral…sounds fishy to me??

  • Taxi tomorrow October 24, 2011 (4:27 pm)

    On 56e. 30 minutes from 3rd and spring to admiral.

  • MaxB October 24, 2011 (4:28 pm)

    Can anyone verify firsthand that the 99 NB entrance @ Royal Brougham is finally open today? Last I heard, estimate was 3:30pm. Thanks.

    • WSB October 24, 2011 (4:42 pm)

      MaxB, I have added it to the story .. it’s open, according to WSDOT.

  • Ben October 24, 2011 (4:30 pm)

    The 21X I boarded downtown at 3:20 looped down 1st over bridge then back up to Marginal to low bridge; got to KFC at 35th and Avalon an hour later. Train along Marginal was stopped. Awful timing. Why dont busses from downtown board SB I-5, then take WS exit?

  • lena October 24, 2011 (4:34 pm)

    Just got back to West Seattle after getting my son from school in the international district. Freeway south looks very bad, we took Beacon Hill and no problem. Also the west seattle bridge going east is very backed up, almost all the way – not sure why everyone is leaving now but I wouldn’t want to try to.

  • clark5080 October 24, 2011 (4:39 pm)

    got here in 40 mins will be better tomorrow as I am going to avoid the WS Bridge

  • TW October 24, 2011 (4:44 pm)

    Lots of police directing traffic along Hanford between First and Marginal. Tons of trucks queued up in and out of rail yard, but flow is working reasonably well except for the occasional train. 30 minutes since leaving Third and Main and we are on the low bridge.

  • JayDee October 24, 2011 (4:54 pm)

    Any water taxi updates? 4:45? 5:15?

  • jedifarfy October 24, 2011 (4:55 pm)

    On a 23 bus going down 4th. It’s way better than usual, even before the other rerouters turned at Lander.

  • KT October 24, 2011 (4:57 pm)

    Here is my story. Just off the 55 from downtown. Took 60 minutes. Here’s the big problems. 4th Ave onto Lander – Lander is backed up from 1st Ave. Turning onto 1st Ave S from Lander – 1st Ave is a crawl because of the traffic backed up trying to turn right down Hanford which is backed all the way up from E Marginal. Two Seattle cops at East Marginal and Hanford standing on the sidewalk gabbing doing absolutely nothing to get the traffic moving. Just what I expected.

  • Parent of two dughters October 24, 2011 (5:05 pm)

    Did I miss the memo from Metro telling us that some express buses would be rerouted to West Seattle via the 1st Ave South Bridge and West Marginal? It was a bit of a shock.

  • Josh Sutton October 24, 2011 (5:06 pm)

    Waiting in line for Water Taxi, TV guy doing man on the scene. Looks like a full boat 10 minutes before it shows up. N 99 is moving full speed on upper deck.

  • watertowerjoey October 24, 2011 (5:06 pm)

    @MaxB it is open – I can see it from my office.

  • Sue October 24, 2011 (5:06 pm)

    Got on a 55 at 3rd/Seneca at 4:35. 25 min to Hanford where we now wait for the world’s slowest freight train that keeps stopping. 10 min delay. Bus driver is losing patience (muttering “dumbest reroute ever” and that he’s glad he taped the football game which he’ll watch at 11the when he finally gets home.

  • mrsB October 24, 2011 (5:16 pm)

    It might be worth trying 12th to Spokane to Columbia and get on the bridge that way. Seems like a long way round but avoids 1st and/or 4th.

  • Vik October 24, 2011 (5:20 pm)

    Fairmount is clear again

  • Eugene October 24, 2011 (5:37 pm)

    clark5080, you’re right, this is no great way of getting to South Lake Union from WS.

  • JayDee October 24, 2011 (5:38 pm)

    On the 37 @ 5:00 we made it to Seacrest in 35 minutes with seats available.

  • Sue October 24, 2011 (5:57 pm)

    Ultimately toook my 55 50 min too go from 3rd/Seneca to the Junction (leaving at 4:35). Twice my morning commute.

  • Sue October 24, 2011 (6:22 pm)

    Parent of Two Daughters, that was the rerouting of the reroute when the trains stopped u the other way. You probably got home faster despite the lnger route.

  • Mike October 24, 2011 (6:22 pm)

    Left before six to beat the morning traffic. Took three times as long to get home at 4 p.m. though (1 hour and 49 minutes) from Shoreline. Riding my bike in tomorrow and going to see if I can best today’s time home.

  • coffee October 24, 2011 (6:25 pm)

    BNSF rail system are total morons. Really they have that same train every day that stops backs up goes forward stops, etc. I don’t understand why they do this every day at rush hour.

  • Pat October 24, 2011 (6:30 pm)

    Anyone going home right now? I5 or another route? Thinking about leaving work now…??..

  • hopey October 24, 2011 (6:37 pm)

    Just discovered this right now: the live WSDOT West Seattle Bridge @ Delridge camera on http://web5.seattle.gov/travelers/ shows when the low bridge is open. It doesn’t always show the low bridge, but apparently they are monitoring and move it to view the bridge when it’s open. I just watched it close. Good to know!

  • Parent of two dughters October 24, 2011 (6:56 pm)

    @Sue- Sounds as good an explanation as any. Our poor bus driver didn’t know why they gave her the “C” Reroute plan on her first day driving our route.

  • Mark October 24, 2011 (7:10 pm)

    The pictures of the construction site are just “wow!”
    http://wsdot.wa.gov/projects/viaduct/camera/

  • Amalia October 24, 2011 (7:16 pm)

    I have to say, this was one of my most fun commute days ever! First, had the pleasure of seeing 100s of new cyclists out there, stopped to chat with the CBC and WSDOT folks under the bridge, truck-free on Alaskan, no harassment, and on the way home I got to watch (with 20 other cyclists and King 5 News) the viaduct getting demolished. Didn’t even care that I got drenched in a downpour in Bellevue. And the autumn colors are peaking (they look especially nice with amber lenses). Thanks, All-Star Fitness, for letting me stop in to pee on the way home (what can I say, it was a long commute).
    .
    Hope to see the cyclists again tomorrow!

  • JN October 24, 2011 (7:48 pm)

    Cycling downtown was easy as usual, and it was awesome seeing so many people using bicycles! Just glad I don’t have to go any farther north than, say, Fremont.

  • Laconique October 24, 2011 (8:21 pm)

    WSB, didn’t the railroad agree not to “build trains” during this mess? Or did I imagine that?

    • WSB October 24, 2011 (8:28 pm)

      According to WSDOT, they said they’d try … although most of the complaints we heard this afternoon weren’t “train building” … but actual trains running … or so it sounded.

  • AIDM October 24, 2011 (8:39 pm)

    Regarding the trains: I wrote to SDOT several years ago because I was sick of being stopped by the trains on my bike. They told me that the BNSF trains are moving back and forth and stopping because they are switching tracks. SDOT has formally requested that they not do this during rush hour and BNSF has refused. So, Seattle sued them! The case went all the way to the supreme court and the city of Seattle lost. So BNSF will continue to do whatever the heck they want to and they don’t care that it inconveniences half of Seattle in the process.

  • Paul October 24, 2011 (8:42 pm)

    Is there any reason to not have two ferries? If I rented a 20 ft boat and charged 5 bux a head how much could I make?

  • yo October 24, 2011 (9:00 pm)

    Typically, railroads “were the first” property to go in anywhere. So within their Right-of-Way they are king in almost all cases I think.

  • Moose2 October 24, 2011 (9:06 pm)

    Paul – you mean like this mini-ferry service on Lake Union? http://www.seattleferryservice.com/

    Breakeven is quoted as about 55 passengers per day (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2016361652_sluferry30m.html).

    So I guess a private ferry across the bay is possible, but I’m sure you’ll need some qualification to captain a passenger boat, permits, and docks at both sides (and I imagine that the later is probably the most difficult to obtain).

    A Moose

  • KB October 24, 2011 (9:11 pm)

    clark5080 – try going over Beacon Hill. It only took me about 15 extra minutes this a.m. to get to Denny and Westlake from the Morgan Junction (normally 30 min/45 today) . Coming home took about 50 min on the reverse (instead of about 35 when I’ve used the route because of an accident or other blockage on the viaduct.)

  • Denise October 24, 2011 (9:24 pm)

    Just think everyone could have been riding high above the madness on the Monorail as it would have opened in 2009. Now look what we have to look forward to for years to come. Hmmmmmm….

  • L October 24, 2011 (9:38 pm)

    @Parent of two daughters, my express bus also took the 1st Ave S bridge because there was a train blocking downtown. (The driver warned us ahead of time.) It was SPEEDY!

  • metrognome October 24, 2011 (9:41 pm)

    railroads are under federal jurisdiction going way back to the days of the land grabs in the West where the RR barons were given the choicest land in return for promises to lay more tracks. Nothing has changed since. Trying to talk to a railroad about their operations is like trying to fly to the moon by flapping your arms. Their attitude is ‘Don’t want to, don’t have to.’
    Paul — money. If you want the county to buy two new boats just for the Water Taxi, you need to pony up some dough. And then when Viadoom is over and the increased ridership goes away, you as a politician would have to justify to the people in, oh, say Woodinville, why their property taxes went up to support a ferry that is of no value to them.

  • dq October 24, 2011 (9:46 pm)

    We also noticed that the Vashon Water Taxi seemed busier than usual while we waited to board the 4:15 West Seattle Taxi. I guess it makes sense that those folks would take the foot ferry versus driving through West Seattle and over the bridge…

  • Susan October 24, 2011 (10:16 pm)

    Did anyone commute from West Seattle to the eastside today, using I-90?

  • suzi October 24, 2011 (10:24 pm)

    I was looking forward to riding in this week! However, being that I have only been off of crutches one day, my only option is driving. I just wanted to say how cool it is that the Cascade Bicycle Club set up a booth and gave away free coffee and lights! Also, to those regular riders that helped out the newbees you rock!

  • MindDrive October 24, 2011 (11:04 pm)

    Maybe I can help too! As a biker I would be thrilled to help a rookie get to work. I can do so Tuesday afternoon leaving 1st & Marion between 5:30 & 6PM, or Wednesday morning leaving Harbor Ave & California, or Wednesday evening sometime after 7PM. Please ask the WSB to get in touch with me.

    As for the trains, I used to be enamored with trains. Until living here and seeing them seemingly go out of their way to inconvenience road users. Granted, the tracks almost certainly came before the roads and the roads were stubbornly built anyway knowing the risks. But to offer not even temporary changes to the train assembly/switching patterns is just sending a big FU to their surrounding community.

  • datamuse October 24, 2011 (11:55 pm)

    Susan: my husband commutes to Bothell from Highland Park, and so typically doesn’t go on the West Seattle Bridge or 99 at all. Commute in was normal, I think, but it took him over two hours to get home. :/ On the other hand, that also happens when there’s an accident on 405, the mountain’s out, there’s a game…

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