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West Seattle development: Another ‘stalled’ site about to rev up

It’s been almost two years since buildings were demolished on the northwest corner of California/Graham (map), at the time slated for a townhouses-plus-live-work-units development that had been proposed a year earlier. Since the demolition, though, the 15,000-square-foot site has remained empty, and weedy, but apparently not much longer. We’d been checking on its status since its fencing came down a few weeks back. Now, half the lot is fenced again, and a real-estate shingle is up at the corner, in front of the unfenced half, pointing to this listing. A conversation with one of the agents, Bryan Loe, reveals what’s ahead: The entire site was purchased less than a month ago by what he says is a local developer partnership, Morgan Junction, LLC. But the previously proposed project, which had even gone through Design Review, is completely dead, he says. The new ownership is keeping the fenced-in north half and plans to build on it soon, according to Loe (the city’s page for the project describes it as “4 attached townhomes and 3 live-work units”), and selling the now-unfenced south half (with a possible buyer already lined up). He says it’s something like what’s happening on a similarly long-empty lot a few parcels north on California:

That’s a new Knoll Development building on the south half of that lot, with the north half fenced off. The developer for the California/Graham north lot is listed as Soleil. Meantime, the California/Graham site is one of the topics on the agenda for tomorrow night’s Morgan Community Association quarterly meeting (7 pm Wednesday, lower-level meeting room @ The Kenney).

15 Replies to "West Seattle development: Another 'stalled' site about to rev up"

  • cj July 20, 2010 (3:32 pm)

    I walked right by there on my morning walk this morning. I kind of like the Knoll idea but I’m hoping Morgan Junction area will get some new food soon.

  • Baba July 20, 2010 (4:11 pm)

    I want to wish the best of luck to Morgan Junction LLC, i just hope that “Bank owned” sign is not on the listing of this property 1 or 2 years from now.

  • HelperMonkey July 20, 2010 (4:22 pm)

    I’d rather see an empty lot there forever than another ugly cookie-cutter building. yuck.

  • Kelly July 20, 2010 (4:30 pm)

    If only something could be done with Chuck & Sally’s, right across the street . . .

  • tr July 20, 2010 (4:36 pm)

    Does anyone know what the status of the Chuck and Sally’s Tavern next door is?

    Is has been closed without activity for several years now. Who owns that land/building, and what are the plans for it?

    Thanks

    • WSB July 20, 2010 (4:51 pm)

      Tr, I check that from time to time. No change. It’s owned by a local realtor who has owned it for some years. No development proposals on the site currently, nor anything else since a DPD report almost three years ago about the cars that were parked behind it – TR

  • Jeanette July 20, 2010 (7:42 pm)

    Soleil does much better work than the “cookie cutter” townhouses that you usually see. I’m excited they are going to do a new project in the neighborhood.

  • Herman July 20, 2010 (9:44 pm)

    It’s true. Soleil does decent aesthetic work, modern, and environmentally considerate. I think they’re about as good as West Seattle can hope for.

    Those ugly, big, and cheaply built homes in West Seattle are built by Cobb, Omni, and Conner. They look for view lots, bulldoze, then drop a beige plywood garage monster in its place.

  • HelperMonkey July 20, 2010 (10:12 pm)

    in re: Chuck and Sally’s..when I was at the stop light today, I saw someone go inside. maybe there’s something up there?

  • (required) July 20, 2010 (10:30 pm)

    What, Jeanette?! HelperMoney is right!! Go look for yourselves — ask Mr. Duffus for a list of his West Seattle projects — including the ones he’s teamed up with others to build here — and decide for yourselves. In my view, respecftfully, the past West Seattle projects I’ve seen by or with Dan Duffus and Soleil ARE the “cookie cutter” cheap cheap cheap townhomes that plague our neighborhoods. They may have nice pictures on Soleil’s website, but again, that’s not what I’ve seen them build here. There’s one off of Fauntleroy I’m thinking about, in a back yard — yick! And it’s apparently been cloned elsewhere — yick yick yick! And worst of all, its not going away. Nor are the poor folks who bought into that stuff — you think they’re going to be able to re-sell any of it? I have my doubts. But I’m not an architect, so what do I know. Honestly, I just hope with the market downturn they’ve developed a conscience and have changed their tune — but I am bracing for more garbage. I hope I’m surprised.

    At least the bad market is a kind of silver lining: in this market, people looking to buy will probably (hopefully) think more than twice before buying the usual garbage. Hopefully buyers will see that the cheap cheap cheap stuff is an investment they do not want to get stuck with. Will it re-sell, let alone at any profit? So I guess the one nice thing about this bad market is that hopefully people won’t buy that garbage any more!

    • WSB July 20, 2010 (10:56 pm)

      (required) etc. – I can’t speak to his entire body of work. I do recall one rather pretty, in my view, development in north West Seattle – because he was there at the event that brought me there for a story, the dedication of benches related to an open-space easement. It’s at 1716 California SW. You can only glimpse part of the lower floor in the coverage of the story
      https://wsb.blackfin.biz/2009/06/video-the-west-seattle-benches-that-inspired-a-change-in-city-law
      .
      but if you drive on that stretch of north California SW, take a look.

  • Krystal July 21, 2010 (7:24 am)

    I also am not a fan of “cookie cutter” homes, but I would rather see (moderate) development than empty lots that fill up with trash. I think most everyone benefits from a vibrant, clean neighborhood, and the construction can provide some jobs for a slower economy. I live right by the Huling lots and I would much rather see development than empty lots. The lots in that area also seem to attract a bit of crime–not sure if that is the case for these lots by Morgan Junction.

    I think it is also important to remember that nearly every decade has a style of homes associated with them, so sometimes it seems hard to avoid a style you are not fond of when it is the trend at the time.

  • Meghan July 21, 2010 (10:53 am)

    So many critics, so little knowledge of architecture and all the requirements, market condition realities, and forces that affect and dictate it. Soleil most certainly does do better work than most local developers. The Knoll townhouses/live-work lofts are very attractive for the location and price point. For a commercial area with not alot of viable retail, the work/live lofts are perfect. They allow people to do business from their home and still have a street-front entrance for their clients. It’s ideal for many different professions. And the new developments will be a whole lot better than a weed strewn vacant lot… or the vast majority of buildings along Calfornia Ave. I mean take a look!

  • transplantella July 21, 2010 (8:46 pm)

    What, there aren’t already enough empty ‘live/work’ spaces on California already?

    I’ve been here 2 1/2 years. Most of the street level commercial space on that stretch of California has been vacant, empty, for lease, and forlorn since I’ve been here. Why build more empty retail space? (so sad)

    I don’t get it. Tax breaks?

  • emcat8 July 23, 2010 (11:54 pm)

    That’s such disappointing news about Chuck and Sally’s Tavern, but thank you for letting us know — I think about asking almost every day, because I walk by it that often. It’s so awful — that whole area near the Morgan junction is so spiffed up and shiny now, and I don’t feel that same scuzzy vibe I used to have on my way up to the store, except that corner with the dark tavern and the empty lot. I’m not fond of the blocks of condos and apartment buildings that are forced to have the (always empty) retail space, but it’d be better to have people there, keeping an eye on things.

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